What's your motivation to be a City Chapter Volunteer/Lead

As a mumbai chapter volunteer myself, I have often wondered about what drives other volunteers to put in the work every month like clockwork to host the meetups, right from co-ordinating with less than communicative venue hosts to publishing social media posts on 5 different platforms and groups, its not easy work.

Just wanted to create a discussion regarding this after talking about it with @mngsh the other day.

cc @Swastik_Baranwal @rahulporuri @yash_raj @subins2000 @Mohit_P_Tahiliani @Tablaster @Suslime @Harsh_Patel and other volunteers of course (just pinged a few who i could recollect)

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Two reasons

  1. I’m trying to give back. I cannot begin to quantify how much I have learnt from the FOSS/software/tech community. PyCon India, PySangamam, PythonPune meetups in 2016, ChennaiPy meetups in 2017/2018, and a few meetups I attended in the US and the UK had a significant impact on my professional career, on the way I look at technology, and more. For example, a few people I discovered in those years are still my role models (e.g. Anand Chitipothu, S Anand) and I want to help the current generation discover new role models.
  2. I need a community around me that cares about the things I care about. I work from home. I am not religious. I don’t spend most of my free time with my friends. So I want to cultivate a community of people around me who I can learn from and whom I can help, if possible, because that’s how I want to spend my time.

Those are my incredibly selfless and totally selfish reasons for why I help organize the Hyd chapter.

I’ve said it before in person and I might have mentioned this on the forum too at some point but I’ll say it again - I tried to volunteer for a number of different communities since 2016 but I didn’t stick through with any of them. I tried to become a proposal reviewer for previous editions of PyCon India, tried to help organize meetups in other city Python communities, etc. A lot of things came together in late 2022 which culminated in me being at the Dec 2022 BLR meetup (which I think was the first physical meetup @wisharya ?) and I wanted to see what it would be like to dedicate myself to helping build a FOSS community. I sincerely thank all those communities because they were kind enough to take me in when I offered help and were okay with me moving on when I wanted to.

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For me, I’ve always wanted to give back to the community and If I can do that while creating and fostering a FOSS culture in my city, why not? I’ve been into FOSS and using FOSS tools and programs for a long time now and I’ve even contributed some code here and there but I’ve never felt that I’ve truly contributed to the community. This is my way of contributing and hopefully creating a community of FOSS enthusiasts in Lucknow.

In the recent few meet-ups, I’ve met a few people who told me that they attend meet-ups in other cities but didn’t expect something like this in Lucknow. That is also one of the reasons I started doing this because even though there are people here who are genuinely interested and actively involved in FOSS in some way, there just wasn’t enough initiative to bring those people together. We still have a long way to go but at least it’s a start.

Those are the primary reasons I have for doing this. I plan to give back to the community full time someday once I’m financially there. And I mean I’ve all the communities to thank for where I am today. Communities like ALiAS, PyCon and FOSS Delhi are places where I found some really good friends and I plan to do the same for others.

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Motivation is kind of unreal, and before you (arya) even started I knew you (arya) had no motivation or clear goals and hence, that is the reason I directly asked you the question.

For me, whenever I worked tirelessly for any conference, all I had in my mind was “this has to be unique, great and something different”, that is how SolapurFOSS happened with the goal of doing something which no one ever did in the city. The chapter never grew because we did not have any goals after that. Same with MumbaiFOSS 2024, turned out to be a good conference with so many good speakers including yourself. This year people working for MumbaiFOSS 2025 are mostly hyped but don’t have any clear goals.

Regarding the community part, I don’t care about the community and I never even know what the community thing with FOSS is when I was new to all of this. I don’t have the understanding of what “Giving back to the Community” is, in my opinion that is an underdog statement.

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Just to be clear, I (and others in the Community) are more than happy to talk to the organizing team regarding this - if it is needed and if it will help.

I’m not sure what you mean by “underdog statement” or this entire paragraph for that matter :sweat_smile:

Organizing a conference is a very demanding task that requires a lot of time and work. It is outright dismissive to say that volunteers who are putting their energy into the event while juggling their personal and professional commitments don’t have a goal. Giving back to the community, meeting people or just learning new stuff are all valid goals for someone to want to contribute.

You don’t have to care for the community but please do not undermine the efforts of others.

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Nothing much ?

Its just my opinion and understanding of FOSS before and after the exposure to “community” in person. The community forms around the code or project and not the other way around. It’s the “efforts”, “work” or “code” which comes first. I have never understood why people want to give back to the community instead of something concrete. Might sound whimsical, but this is all I can add to it.

Might sound whimsical, but that’s about it and I don’t mean to look down on anyone at the first place.

This isn’t the point of the topic so I don’t want to go further down this rabbit hole here but I do want to add a point - community gives rise to code too, just like how code gives rise to the community. The scientific python community evolved into what it is because over the past decades, people came together around code (e.g. numpy), and the powerusers/creators in that community enabled the creation of new code (e.g. pandas). Similarly, parent projects like Django, Flask, etc built strong communities around them, which enabled the creation and significant usage of offspring projects like django/flask addons/extensions. You could argue that the code is what enabled new code and that the community had little to no impact in such circumstances. I would counter that tons of code (FOSS projects) lies in limbo and doesn’t produce significant offspring FOSS projects because a strong community didn’t form around the code. Please note that a strong community isn’t just a community of passive/active users - it needs programmers/devs who can understand what is missing, what could be, and how to expand the community further by adopting concepts/patterns/functionality available elsewhere in the software/tech community.

Code and community both enable each other and one wouldn’t exist without the other.

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We started the in-person meetup in April 2022 - First in-person FOSS United Meetup.

It was probably the 6th physical meetup.

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@ansh and @Suslime tagging you here because @Suslime is still involved with the Chennai chapter and @ansh was involved with the Chennai chapter as a volunteer earlier.

also @Sejal_Jain , @Faizan_Akhtar

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The term “FOSS” was a recent discovery to me and had sparked my interest. Luckily, FOSS United Chennai happened at the same time and it was the perfect way to learn more about the philosophy. Obviously, I could do this by just attending events and listening to talks but I realised actually running the community would require me to put way more effort in expanding my knowledge, because I needed to know what the community stands for. It became a motivator to read about something interesting that no one else around me seemed to care for.

Another factor was the agency that city chapters have. Absolutely anyone who wishes to volunteer gets an equal say in the decision making process and work on the things that they like doing. This is very different from college clubs and communities where there are hierarchies and you are boxed into a specific role.

The community also sort of later became an escape. I didn’t like the environment I was in and monthly meetups were an opportunity to get out of college, meet new people and get a new perspective on things.

I joined because of the learning opportunity and agency, and I guess I stayed because I liked the community and hanging out with @iamimmanuelraj @Suslime @Sakhil_Ahamed

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I never really knew what FOSS was until I saw a message from Abhishek in the GDG Chennai group. I’ve always wanted to give back to the community, so when I saw the name “FOSS United,” it sounded cool and I figured, why not? I joined, and that’s where everything started.

My first real experience was working with Vishal to organize the first ChennaiFOSS in 2023. If I’m being honest, it was a bit of a mess at first. But with some quick fixes and a lot of teamwork, we pulled it off. At that time, I wasn’t completely sold on FOSS United – I didn’t fully get what it was about. But then came IndiaFOSS 3.0, and that event changed everything. It was the start of my real understanding of FOSS and everything this organization stands for. That was the spark that pushed me to get more involved and put in even more effort.

The people are really what make volunteering so special. The Chennai team isn’t like any other community team I’ve been a part of – they made me feel like I belonged right away. That vibe made it easy to stick around, and eventually, I started to feel that same warmth with the Foundation team too. It was then I realized I could volunteer beyond just the Chennai community, and it felt great.

As Ansh said, the community became my escape – a space where I could share my ideas freely, learn without judgment, and explore so many new things. And honestly, the Chennai community wouldn’t be the same without the amazing people who make it what it is.

Tagging the past and present Chennai team here !

@ansh @wisharya ( OG Chennai Team ) @mngsh @iamimmanuelraj @Harsh_Patel @Sakhil_Ahamed @Justin_Benito @Arun_kumar_V

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Considering the sizable amount of responses that the thread has received, I think its only fair if I share my own part of the story.

I have only been involved with Linux and the FOSS community at large since around 2020, but I was never really invested in local or even India-specific communities for that matter.

Like @mngsh said previously, I was also a strong believer in the idea that organizing events isn’t really giving back to the community per-say and I still stand by that idea to an extent.

My real interest in volunteering for events however, started after MumbaiFOSS 2023, which was I think my second event/conference that I ever attended…
The idea of having a space to meet up with other like minded people clicked, and I felt like the possibility of having this opportunity as often as every month in my own city was what drew me to volunteering.

In hindsight, me volunteering to host the meetups was primarily for the ever selfish motive of having a group of people to discuss my work with and talk about things that I cared about, with people who actually understood and appreciated what it is, which was a breath of fresh air for me from the weird stares and lectures about doing stuff your age that I usually got whenever I brought up my work with others around me.

It was also to an extent the slight disappointment of my inner-self that even though the meetups and conferences were “FOSS”, it was almost 90% run on proprietary software (eg. Telegram, Google Docs, Gmail, Figma, Windows etc.).
I felt volunteering was the best way to change that, from the inside - and I think I have been relatively successful in that.
Mumbai chapter was one of the first to have a Matrix bridge, and most of our designs are done through penpot instead of figma too! We also have a fully FOSS streaming setup, and all our documentation for the past two conferences are on FOSS document stores (Cryptpad for 2.0, and Project Segfault Owncloud for the upcoming MumbaiFOSS 2025)

However to this day, one thing I feel I have failed at as an organizer is the ability to convert college students/FOSS wannabees into actually caring about FOSS. Seeing a lot of these kind of people, and those who join meetups and volunteer for the sake of an extra entry on their resume or new content for a linkedin post is plain unfortunate.
Me and @mngsh are both from the same background of telegram and matrix communities, where people spend time for the sake of pure passion and passion only - this is not the case unfortunately in most events that I have been to. A lot of people who come to our events to volunteer and network are simply talkers who have never done something concrete in the FOSS sphere, which is another thing I was never a big fan of.

Important questions like what mangesh had addressed in the quote, usually go un-addressed because of the unwritten rule of not criticizing volunteers. I understand the motive of the rule, but at some point, we need to ask the hard questions, else the volunteers will never learn. Pointing out mistakes isn’t wrong, however blunt it might be. I’m not advocating for shouting at volunteers or whatever, but atleast we should not turn a blind eye if the approach or the reasons for which he is volunteering is fundamentally incorrect

This is very much a rant, and thanks in advance if you took the time to read it :P.

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I completely empathise with you. I started volunteering for it and belong to matrix/IRC/Slack/Discord.

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Thank you for sharing :slight_smile:

I was also a strong believer in the idea that organizing events isn’t really giving back to the community per-say and I still stand by that idea to an extent.

The idea of having a space to meet up with other like minded people clicked, and I felt like the possibility of having this opportunity as often as every month in my own city was what drew me to volunteering.

That’s completely fair. These things rarely have any tangible outcomes. I personally hate talking to new people and I don’t like how community initiatives pretty much force me to get out of my comfort zone (for the better!). So for me and a lot of other people it genuinely is a way to just contribute back to the ecosystem that has supported us without expecting anything.

Eventually all of these things add up and there’s isn’t one sole reason you continue to hang out in these circles.

A lot of people who come to our events to volunteer and network are simply talkers who have never done something concrete in the FOSS sphere, which is another thing I was never a big fan of.

You are not a fan of people who want to contribute to FOSS because they don’t have a background of contributing to FOSS? :smile:

You’ve discovered a community of people that understands you and your work, I don’t think we should gatekeep that experience from others.

But yes I can confirm that you’re absolutely right. A lot of volunteers may not care about the philosophy of FOSS United, they are here for their own reasons. But I genuinely don’t see the problem with that, there are people in every chapter that do care and they will ensure that the vision is never polluted.

I’ve made peace with the fact that majority of the FOSS ecosystem is comprised of takers - people who are there to extract value from the ecosystem and not give anything in return. Companies earn billions of dollars by building products on top of FOSS. Forget about giving back, they don’t even want to acknowledge that FOSS had a role. And trust me we interact with these people on a very regular basis :smile:

It’s very hard to find people who care, and even harder to find people who care and also want to put work in. So when somebody comes up to us saying they want to volunteer it’s genuinely a breath of fresh air, and I don’t really give a shit if they have a background in FOSS or are here just for their resume. Telling them NOT to volunteer won’t change anything, giving them a chance might just help you with your goal of

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I think I was pretty much the person you describe in this thread. I was a volunteer at the first ChennaiFOSS and someone asked me why I was using a proprietary OS. I didn’t even know what that meant.

I’d like to think that I have now been able to make some difference to the FOSS United Community. If my interest of volunteering was rejected for the sake of keeping the Chennai chapter purist, I won’t have bothered to learn more about FOSS at all!

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